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Howard Emerson
11-28-2008, 10:22 AM
Hi all,
Aside from the vanity doors I have to cut, veneer, finish and mount, I'm about done with this.

All the woodwork, aside from the oak solid-core door, is cherry. The counter top is 5/4 with 3 coats of Spar Varnish.

The last shot showing the countertop/sink also shows the little baseboard section prior to installing a short bleeder and installing the cherry cover sporting some computer desktop grill inserts for a clean look.

Thanks to all who helped with their sage advice here and there!

Best,
Howard

Terry
11-28-2008, 11:24 AM
Looks very nice. Nice to see some good looking high end stuff with all that tile and woodwork.

Howard Emerson
11-28-2008, 11:42 AM
Looks very nice. Nice to see some good looking high end stuff with all that tile and woodwork.

Thank you Terry!

Ya know we could have gone a whole lot 'higher' end, but KISS works: Keep It Simple, Stupid:-)

We both like white fixtures provided there's enough of a contrast with the background, and of course white is always the cheapest way to go. The Kohler San Raphael toilet, the Americh acrylic shower base and the American Standard Hexalyn sink are really incredibly close in their whiteness.

By the way, one of the tips I'd read here, early on, was setting the base in Structolite, but having the glop between 2 sheets of poly in case things didn't work out right. That was a great idea!

I've always used the Structo, but never the plastic!

The base feels like a warm terazzo base on a cement floor!

Another little item I addressed was making that tall towel cabinet removeable in case the shower control supplies ever need tending to. It just slides out, if need be.

Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, Terry!

Best,
Howard

jimbo
11-28-2008, 12:28 PM
Very nice. I think the little toasty radiator right next to the toilet is a very comforatable touch.

Personally, I would not choose wood for a vanity top, but you know what you like and know what you are doing.

Cookie
11-28-2008, 12:37 PM
It is really beautiful. Very nice work. I like the light in the linen closet.

MikeVila
11-28-2008, 02:46 PM
That towel rack looks awesome, especially with the can light. Nice work.

Howard Emerson
11-28-2008, 05:49 PM
That towel rack looks awesome, especially with the can light. Nice work.

Hi Mike,
Glad you like it! It's actually a pair of 'puck' lights, with Halogen bulbs.

All of the interiors were done with 3/4" pre-lacquered plywood that I got from Robert's Plywood in Deerpark, NY.

Here's another couple of detail shots, showing the clear silicone around the sink, the full extension drawer in the towel cabinet, etc:

jimbo
11-28-2008, 06:32 PM
Now you've gone and done it! Showed one picture too many! That trap is an S trap.....big No-No.

MikeVila
11-28-2008, 06:49 PM
Yep, I caught that too. :(

Redwood
11-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Yep...

Just saw that too!

I'll give an A+ on everything except the lav drain...
That gets an F!

kingsotall
11-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Now you've gone and done it! Showed one picture too many! That trap is an S trap.....big No-No.

lol :p

Very nice work, though! Extend the tailpiece a bit more and you should be able to get the p-trap pointed to the rear.

MikeVila
11-28-2008, 07:35 PM
LOL, everyone's a critic. ;)

Howard Emerson
11-28-2008, 08:00 PM
Now you've gone and done it! Showed one picture too many! That trap is an S trap.....big No-No.

Sorry, no can do. I'll post another picture and show you why it could only be done that way.

It's draining fine in any case.

The problem, ultimately, is because I decided, after the rough-in, to do a suspended vanity and as it is, the tailpiece is as short as it can be.

After I post another straight-on shot of the drain/supplies, you can give me your thoughts on it and I'm certainly open to suggestions, but I ain't taken the cabinet off the wall:-)

HE

SewerRatz
11-28-2008, 08:27 PM
I was admiring the work as well, till I seen the drain pipes. If a plumbing inspector came there he would insist you hire a plumber to correct it and he would want to see the rest of the plumbing rough in to see if there is any other mistakes. I am eagerly awaiting the next picture.

Howard Emerson
11-29-2008, 02:23 AM
I was admiring the work as well, till I seen the drain pipes. If a plumbing inspector came there he would insist you hire a plumber to correct it and he would want to see the rest of the plumbing rough in to see if there is any other mistakes. I am eagerly awaiting the next picture.


Ratzo,
Here's some early ones, including moving the lav drain center, and a few of the tub drain that had to be moved to accommodate a different center on the new shower base.

I'm pretty sure the LA trap will pass muster here, although I seem to recall some bickering in a thread about the size of a shower drain vs a tub drain.

I wish I was consistant with taking pictures throughout the entire process, but alas, I was not.

I'll take a straight-on shot of the lav situation later to more clearly demonstrate my predicament.

Thanks for the suggestions!



Couplings should have been the shielded type like this
http://www.terrylove.com/images/abs/proflex.jpg

Howard Emerson
11-29-2008, 05:18 AM
........I decided to look at the situation from a fresh perspective.

I certainly understand why you would want water to always be in a trap to prevent sewer gas coming through. All the appliances on either side of this plumbing wall (2 toilets, 2 sinks, 2 showers) all have vents and none of them, even this lav with the 'S' trap, gurgle no matter what's being flushed, etc.

However..........I know what caused me to build such a Rube Goldberg: I was not seeing the forest for the trees, as I was reusing stuff from a temporary lav countertop that was in this bathroom so that it could be used while building the real vanity.

The previous sink selection was a Kohler Yin-Yang, a vessel sink with a very off-set drain, and I actually had everything set up as a P-trap at that time.

When I changed horses in mid-stream (ie new sink, deep bowl, etc) I didn't think to go out and get a simpler set up, and just started using the fittings I had on hand.

So now I have two P-traps, and one will work, it appears, from a cursory glance holding them up to where they need to go.

I'm reminded of a favorite saying by all this: 'Why is there never time to do it right, but always time to do it over?'

Duh..............

Thanks for the prodding.

I'll post pics............First I've got guitar lessons to give...........

Onward,
Howard

Howard Emerson
11-29-2008, 10:43 AM
......took a little digging into the 3/4" ply for clearance, but it worked out just fine.

Thanks for taking me to task on this. I knew it was less than good.............and while we're at it, yes, I realize the supply shutoffs are usually higher than the wall drain outlet, but the cabinet guy wasn't talking to the plumber that day and he'd been thinking about a shelf along the back wall for something or other.

At least the lights don't turn on when I flush the toilet.

jar546
11-29-2008, 11:28 AM
Looks great, nice workmanship. Congrats and enjoy.

Howard Emerson
11-29-2008, 11:49 AM
Looks great, nice workmanship. Congrats and enjoy.

Thanks Jar!

Although I did pull 3 new supplies (2-12's, 1-14) from the panel to the BR, an electrician put them in the box and did all the drops from the attic, etc.

I don't mind getting wet, but I do mind getting surprised :-O

HE

Basement_Lurker
11-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Nice workmanship and design choices Howard!

I am curious about your shower. I see that you have a sliding hand shower, as well as a standard shower head, but I don't see a diverter anywhere. Is the diverter hiding somewhere, or does your valve have that option built in and I can't see it, or did you plumb it so that both would be on at the same time?

thx

Terry
11-29-2008, 03:34 PM
I am curious about your shower. I see that you have a sliding hand shower, as well as a standard shower head, but I don't see a diverter anywhere. Is the diverter hiding somewhere, or does your valve have that option built in and I can't see it, or did you plumb it so that both would be on at the same time?



The Valve is a HansGrohe, and it can have both shower heads on at the same time, or individually.
http://www.hansgrohe-usa.com/JP/hruh0122.pdf

Basement_Lurker
11-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Ahh so HansGrohe has a combo unit. I don't follow their product lines, so thanks for the heads up Terry!

Howard Emerson
11-29-2008, 04:26 PM
The Valve is a HansGrohe, and it can have both shower heads on at the same time, or individually.
http://www.hansgrohe-usa.com/JP/hruh0122.pdf

Hi Terry,
Actually mine is not that model.

It's 'one or the other' with the unit we bought, the Pro/Thermobalance II valve with the 'Talis' trim kit.

The thin 'rod' hanging downwards is the volume/selector control. Turn it to 9 o'clock and the shower head is on. Turn it to 3 o'clock and the hand held is on.

The small dial in the front controls the temperature with a high limit stop that can be over-ridden for hotter temps.

Regards,
Howard