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deb8997
05-20-2005, 06:39 AM
well we are returning our American Standard champion toilet i had enough with it running and adjustments we made are now working,so my question is which toilet from home depot should we buy what has been your experience with toilets from there.
thanks

hj
05-20-2005, 08:51 AM
American Standard is supposed to have revised the flush valve to cure that problem.

Snowman
05-20-2005, 08:52 AM
My first choice was the Toto. Which I bought and love it. :p Wait,,, how can you L O V E a toilet???

My sceond choice was Kohler Cimarron: http://www.terrylove.com/wc/kohler_cimarron.htm

That's my unprofessional opinion.......
Tom

Terry
05-20-2005, 10:17 AM
hj,

Here's a little note I got the other day

"About one year ago I installed three American Standard Champion toilets in a
friends home, to replace three, cheap, builder installs. All three leak
water from the tank and refill regularily and it's noisy. All three were
installed within one degree level...what else would be pertinent to know?
(The owner didn't register the toilets, so a warranty fix can't be pursued.)
Is this a common problem? I've steered other folks away from the Champion
model based on this experience and the fact that nobody I've asked (a
plumbing supply store and a plumber) has an answer for what's wrong with the
toilets. To replace a flush valve before one year seems absurd to me, but
maybe there's a clue I'm not picking up on. Any ideas?"
Amy

Or how about this email?

"The last straw is this slow leak between the bowl and tank. The AS Champion is about the
poorest excuse for a product I have ever owned. Believe me, it is going to the
junk yard, and I will NEVER buy another AS product as long as I live!

I have had the AS Champion for about 6 months, and have had nothing but
trouble with it, and it has the "new, improved flush valve".

I have suffered through loose tank to bowl fittings, flush tower sticking, rocking
tanks and the "clunk" and even through all that, I thought I could live with the Champion because
it does have a fast and good cleaning flush (even though the clunk is bad at night). AS
should really do the right thing and recall this piece of junk, and replace the flush
tower with a good old reliable larger flapper like other manufacturers use!

My biggest problem is that the rubber washer (thats about all you can call it) on the so
called "new and improved flush tower" gets knocked out of its flush tower grove
sometimes by the forceful fall of the tower. Boy, someone should take a lesson from
other toilet manufactures and should go back to the old "flapper".
Anyway, this causes
a slow leak between tank and bowl (see below). I have to re seat the rubber ring into
the grove on the flush tower, and that fix will last, oh, maybe, 6 days, at most!

John Kimble