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Andy_NM
08-01-2008, 10:00 PM
Good evening gents,

I am a HIC and I recently decided to stop wasting money on rent and decided to buy a house for my family. The house was built more than 100 years ago, and as you can suspect most of the plumbing is ancient and out of code. So anyways, I was removing the walls on the first floor bathroom because they were pretty banged up and evidently came across the plumbing for that bathroom. Now, I am not a plumber but I do construction work and I know when something is not right and when I looked at the plumbing for this bathroom I started laughing. Whoever did the plumbing just added pipes with no regards whether they were right or wrong, they just put it there. So I talked to a plumber to see how much it would cost to have the bathroom below and the one above fixed and unfortunately the price was a little too high for my budget right now.
Now, seeing as I need to move into this house in two weeks and not having the $$$$$ to pay a plumber to do the work for me I decide to do it my self. Again, I am not a plumber and I do not know plumbing codes but I do know a little from seeing plumbing from other places that I worked doing construction.
So, there are a lot of things that need to be done here and I drew a rough draft of how I plan on doing this but before I start cutting pipes I wanted to consult with the people who know this stuff inside and out, you guys!
Here are the drawings of how the plumbing is and how I plan on fixing it.
Current Plumbing:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/674/bathroomhf6.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bathroomhf6.jpg)
This is to the best of my knowledge how it should be done. Again, I'm not a plumber so I'm sure there are things that can be improved.
Desired Plumbing:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2729/newbathroomii5.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbathroomii5.jpg)
I still don't know how to do the 2nd floor bathroom plumbing correctly. I wasn't planning on remodeling the 2nd floor bathroom. Is there any way to vent the sink, BT, Toilet? Wet Vent or any thing else? Again, any and all help is greatly appreciated.

nhmaster
08-02-2008, 05:59 AM
You're gonna need a plumber on this one. How about a permit to do the work? This is pretty involved work.

Andy_NM
08-02-2008, 10:41 AM
You're gonna need a plumber on this one. How about a permit to do the work? This is pretty involved work.

Yes, I would much rather have a plumber do this. But with closing costs for the house I am a bit cash strapped right now and cannot afford to pay the price asked...
Worst case scenario I will just put up the walls and forget about this for a month or two until I have money to hire a plumber.

Thanks for the help any way!

Gary Swart
08-02-2008, 10:52 AM
You may be taking the best course of action by hold off for awhile. I have never done any remodeling job where more problems that were originally anticipated didn't show up, and they always cost major dollars. I would really expect that you are faced with a totally replacing all of the plumbing from supply lines to drains and that's one heck of a big learning curve for a layman, especially one who has little or no plumbing experience. There are many ways to screw up, just a few ways to do it right and correcting errors can really compound the problem.

hj
08-02-2008, 02:37 PM
WE have absolutely no idea about what you have because you are trying to show 3 dimensions two dimensionally. It can be done but not the way you show it. Anyway, you cannot do it the way your revised drawing shows it. Now you know why the plumber will be expensive. He will do it right rather than the easy way.

patrick88
08-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Why don't you take a pic of the plumbing.
Just because the plumbing looks bad by todays standards does not mean it is wrong for 100yrs ago. It has worked fine all of these yrs.
I would fix the stuff that is in bad shape and wait for the rest

Andy_NM
09-03-2008, 10:50 AM
Good afternoon gentlemen,

Thank you very much for your replies. I really wanted to do this by myself but in the end it proved to be too much for someone inexperienced. So I followed your suggestions and I finally found a master plumber who will fix every thing for a reasonable price that I can afford.

Thank you!

leejosepho
09-03-2008, 02:22 PM
I finally found a master plumber who will fix every thing for a reasonable price that I can afford.

My guess is he is an older guy who actually enjoys doing updates on plumbing from years past ...