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rmelo99
02-28-2008, 06:48 PM
I need some help with plumbing 2 dishwashers both supply and drain. First time ever doing 2(in one kitchen anyway :-)

They will both be located next to each other on the left side of the sink.

I am unclear on how to tackle this setup. All the dishwashers I have plumbed have had their supply fed from a second valve under the sink base and the drain line piped with flex tube into the sinks drain line.

I also have done one house where the d/w drain line had it's own drain/trap in the sink cabinet that was setup like a washing machines drain. The flex tube just went into that.

I am unclear how I would deal with the plumbing for the unit furthest away from the sink and even the one closest.

I am above basement and have access to plumb this how ever is necessary....within reason.

1.) I like having access to a shut off supply valve under the sink, incase of emergency. Can I or should I plumb 2 stops under the sink, one for each d/w and then run supply to each unit using flex braided SS? Or should I install hardpipe to behind each unit and simply have a shut off valve located under the sink?

2.) What is the optimal/proper way to run drainage for these units? Is it still back out the sink trap/drain? Can each d/w have it's own drain line?


Thanks
Rem

krow
02-28-2008, 08:56 PM
1) locate 2 seperate stops for dishwashers and 1 for sink, The SS tubes are the easiest to work with

2)For best results and better access to drain hoses, under the sink connections are better. I have seen too many traps under the floor with little or no access to plugged DW drains. A nightmare to unplug

krow
02-28-2008, 08:57 PM
Typical installation for 2 DW units

Mike Swearingen
02-28-2008, 09:19 PM
A couple of other issues to deal with:
Does your local code require air gaps on all dishwashers? If so, you'll need two.
Does your local code require a separate dedicated electrical circuit to a dishwasher? If so, you'll need two 15 amp breakers with 14/2-with-ground wiring, which will likely comply. However, if you're running new circuits, I would go ahead and run 12/2-with-ground off 20 amp breakers just in case someone ever wanted to install heavy-duty dishwashers in the future.
Good luck!
Mike

hj
02-29-2008, 05:48 AM
You can make the hot water connections anyway you want to. A single valve with two outlets, a double valve with a single inlet, two separate stops, etc. The drains will connect separately. Either to a disposer and a branch tailpiece, or two branch tailpieces if there is no disposer. If a DW has its own trap, and is done "legally", then it is a possible source of flooding because of the open gap. If it is not done properly, then it can be a source of contamination if the drain backs up into the dishwasher.

rmelo99
02-29-2008, 08:17 PM
I have wiring in place for 2- 20 amp breakers. Local plumbers have said no air gaps required but I will check with the city plumbing inspector next week.

If I do need to use an air gap I think I saw on the board here a two to one air gap for multiple units. Will that work?

Am I going to run into issues with such a long drain hose for the 2nd unit? What would be the correct way for the D/W to have it's own drain?

rmelo99
03-02-2008, 12:29 PM
anyone? Makin sure i didn't get forgotten :-)

krow
03-02-2008, 04:41 PM
In most cases 98% of the time, you do not need an air gap because most DW,s are equipt with built in check valves. You only have to put a high loop under you counter.

Running more hose will not give you any issues. You will only need to extend an extra 3FT max to reach your required destination.