Shower drain install from above

sxotty

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I searched the forum and found some threads leading me here as far as how one installs the shower drain.
http://www.oatey.com/apps/catalog/instance_assets/assets/How_to_Use/solvent_weld_drains.jpg

I have two questions.

1) Is the locking nut supposed to sit above the plywood floor. (I at first thought this was the case so it could support some of the weight of the PVC pipe below it.)

2) Can you put the silicone on the pan where drain goes and screw it in from above quickly instead of tightening the nut from below?

I believe the answer to (1) is NO b/c I noticed when setting the pan on the nut that it is not flush with the floor so I take it the edge of the nut is not supposed to sit on the plywood and support the weight of the pipe.


(2) I ask b/c the spot the shower is in, is partially over a joist (that I reinforced with a 2x10) so the I cannot screw the nut on from below as there is not room to turn it around in circles.

If I can simply put a bit of silicone on the floor and screw it down that will be fine with me, but I wasn't sure if that would likely lead to leaks. Previously I had assumed that the rubber washer went between drain and pan, and friction one between nut and pan. Obviously that was incorrect.

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Also I am already using an offset drain
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so that it moves away from the joist ASAP, but you can see why I cannot turn it, plus at the moment the hole in the plywood fits it tightly on all sides, so it cannot be turned at all. I did that on purpose so it would not put pressure on the pipes below if someone screwed the top part in or out.
 
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