How close to plastic valve box can you solder?

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I want to replace the old-fashioned, leaky boiler drains in my washing machine supply box with Oatey 1/4 turn valves. The old boiler drains are screwed into copper adapters which in turn are sweated on to the 1/2" water supply lines. There is about 3/4" of 1/2" pipe visible before it contacts the black plastic grommet in the plastic wall box (typical plastic box for washing machine supply valves/drain fitting).

Do you think I can unsolder the old fittings and sweat on the new valves if I put a heat shield around where the pipe comes through the grommet in the box? Or do I need to open up the wall?
 
I want to replace the old-fashioned, leaky boiler drains in my washing machine supply box with Oatey 1/4 turn valves. The old boiler drains are screwed into copper adapters which in turn are sweated on to the 1/2" water supply lines. There is about 3/4" of 1/2" pipe visible before it contacts the black plastic grommet in the plastic wall box (typical plastic box for washing machine supply valves/drain fitting).

Do you think I can unsolder the old fittings and sweat on the new valves if I put a heat shield around where the pipe comes through the grommet in the box? Or do I need to open up the wall?

Why not just install new boiler drains? They do make 1/4 turn ones if that's why you're changing them. It's going to be difficult if not impossible to solder inside that box without damaging it. That's what I'd do, the next step for me would be removing and replacing the box to facilitate a washing machine valve.
 
Those valves may be the ones that can be unscrewed without heating them. IF so remove them and screw new boiler drains into the adapters.

Good thought - I have tried that but not enough room in the box to rotate them (the hose threads stick out far enough to hit the box)...
 
Will taking the handles off make it possible to turn them off? They got screwed on there...
 
My guess is that the current valves were screwed on outside the box, then the 1/2" lines were put through the holes in the box, and then soldered to the rest of the water lines below the box...

I have new 1/4 turn valves and would really like to replace the old valves, mostly so that it we will actually be able to easily turn the water off between uses of the WM, and when away - right now the old boiler valves are hard to turn and very awkward to use due tight space in the box so we leave them on all the time.

I have tried to post a picture but so far keep getting "invalid file" comments when I try to upload.
 
Unfortunately if that's how they went into the box that's how they have to come out of the box. You may have to open the wall to get at the plumbing.

Once again though I'd recommend a washing machine valve over boiler drains if you're going to be opening walls and soldering anyway.
 
Sounds like the way to go - makes sense!

The Oatey valves I have are in fact WM shutoffs so looks like I'm good to go, except for some drywall patching supplies!

Thanks, everyone!
 
For what it's worth, finally figured out how to attach a pic...
 

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If the box doesn't catch fire, it will definitely soften / deform / look bad when you're done. And the fumes that's make are pretty bad for you.

I'd open the wall.
 
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