I had some of the reqular old type valves back when they first switched to plastic stems that leaked out the handle. They just drilled a bit too deep into the stem for the handle screw, that has nothing to do with the quarter turn. It was even a good brand that I get from my supply house, just a bad run, was a pain to deal with, I had a box and more than half of them were like that. I bought valves at a chain store for a while after that. I love the quarter turns, brass craft are common and good.