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molo
10-04-2007, 09:48 PM
Some cultures tink it's crude not to use water to clean up. I tend to agree. What is your opinion? Please respond


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCao3h72dEE

jimbo
10-04-2007, 09:56 PM
Since a corncob or a handful of leaves was good enough for grandpa, charmin is a marvelous improvement. What more could we ask for?

Peanut9199
10-05-2007, 05:52 AM
There was a US commercial from Toto on their Washlet bidet seat.
It featured a guy in front of a bathroom mirror and his face was covered in dirt. He takes a dry wash cloth and wipes his face and when he's done you can see all the dirt left behind in the crevices.
Then it shows you washing with water.
It makes you think.

hj
10-05-2007, 06:12 AM
That is like the story about the plumber who is working in an upscale beauty parlor and asks if he can use the rest room. The operator says, "Yes, but it is a high tech toilet, so DO NOT push the red button". He goes in and sees that there is a button marked "Wash", one marked "Dry", one marked "Blower", and an unmarked red button. After using the toilet he pushes the wash button and is treated to a gentle spray, then the dry one and the warm air evaporates the water. The blower button produces a soothing feeling. Then he wonders what will happen if he presses the red button, so he pushes it. The clients in the beauty parlor suddenly hear an agonized scream from the rest room. One lady asked what happened. The attendent said, "He must have pressed the button that inserts the tampon".

geniescience
10-05-2007, 12:03 PM
delicate subject.

the whole subject is hard to discuss, because it deals with layers and layers of taboo topics. Nobody discusses any one of them easily.

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I have a Freehander in a walk in shower with built in bench and footrest.

Guess how I have used it in a manner similar to a Bidet? I have at times turned it to cover only my lower body, and let a gentle warm spray cover that body part. For further information see http://www.freehander.net/ and http://www.groheamerica.com/t/25_3874.html to see the range of motion you can get with a Freehander.


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Knowing what I know now, would I get a bidet or a washlet? Yes.

Did I think it was unnecessary before? I thought it was one step too far ahead of my needs, budget and "image".


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One friend of mine had a bidet installed in a new house, and he seemed to enjoy telling me as clearly as possible why he found it practical, useful and necessary. Years later it still makes me puke to remember his words and images. He described situations that I had never thought of before. Some people's derrières have coarse hair and practically fur around the sphincter and they may find that this surface grabs fresh fecal matter as they try to wipe dry with any paper tissue .... ... and that is just the beginning of a long speech that you may not want to hear.



David

Peanut9199
10-05-2007, 01:25 PM
delicate subject.

I have a Freehander in a walk in shower with built in bench and footrest.

Guess how I have used it in a manner similar to a Bidet? I have at times turned it to cover only my lower body, and let a gentle warm spray cover that body part.


David


It's to be used as a body spray not a bidet.
But then again women use hand showers for more than their heads.

Furd
10-05-2007, 01:40 PM
I have always considered that a washbasin near enough to the toilet to wet the paper is a necessity as I am not a dry wiper.

And a hand-held shower is also a necessity...'nuff said. ;)

molo
10-05-2007, 02:12 PM
LOL, this is funny....

achutch
10-05-2007, 04:51 PM
The company that I work for has begun to remodel some of the many restrooms on site (though not near my work area). Some have included showers, another, a brand new ADA unisex bathroom with shower, and most recently one with what they say are bidet facilities.

There is a new space set apart from the stalls which contains an ADA lavatory, an ADA wall mounted toilet (American-Standard), and on the wall to the right when seated, what appears to be a shower / tub single lever control connected to a hand held sprayer device.

The communications department featured photos of this new facility on their weekly "This Week" on the bulletin boards, and installed these "bidets" to help meet the needs of those from different cultures who prefer to use water to clean up.

BUT, I have never heard of or seen a setup like this.

Personally, I use wet wipes and have for many years (and without issues with either the septic at the camp or the drains at the condo).

achutch

Terry
10-05-2007, 06:02 PM
Wet wipes should not be put down drains.

In many countries, people use water to wash with.
More and more, washing toilet seats are being used.

http://www.easycarts.net/ecarts/terrylove/images/bb-1000.jpg (http://www.easycarts.net/ecarts/terrylove/images/bb-1000_zoom.jpg)

Some models like the one above, can be set to
Warm to sit on
Warm water wash
Warm air dry
And an air deodorizer.
The remote can be placed in a holder on a wall, or picked up and held in the hand.
http://www.easycarts.net/ecarts/terrylove/Bidet_Seats.html

Verdeboy
10-05-2007, 07:03 PM
I usually put a bit of hand lotion on the TP at some point. It has the dual purpose of "wetting" and reducing irritation.

Nate R
10-05-2007, 11:50 PM
Terry, I was just going to ask about that.

Are the "Flushable" wet wipes really that? Or do they not disintegrate?

Terry
10-06-2007, 09:46 AM
CR tests with wipes, so they can use the over and over again.

That's why they don't test using TP. TP disintegrates.
That's why a CR best buy may not flush all the bits of your TP and POOP.

Nate R
10-06-2007, 05:36 PM
Well, some wipes I noticed are labeled as flushable in bold right on the package, some are not. I was wondering if there's actually a difference.

jimbo
10-06-2007, 06:21 PM
" Well, some wipes I noticed are labeled as flushable in bold right on the package, some are not. I was wondering if there's actually a difference. "

Some kitty litter is also labeled as flushable. Talk to your local "rooter" man about that one!

Wet_Boots
10-11-2007, 12:49 PM
Since a corncob or a handful of leaves was good enough for grandpa, charmin is a marvelous improvement. What more could we ask for?....are the corncobs available with Sanagloss?

Gary Swart
10-11-2007, 02:02 PM
Not with corncobs. For Sanigloss you have to go with Sears and Roebuck catalogs.

Mike50
10-11-2007, 02:58 PM
" Well, some wipes I noticed are labeled as flushable in bold right on the package, some are not. I was wondering if there's actually a difference. "

Some kitty litter is also labeled as flushable. Talk to your local "rooter" man about that one!

You have to be a little Stupid Or Crazy to believe that Any clay based cat litter is flushable-safe.
Probably the same people who think they are safer flying first class.

Mike