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got_nailed
09-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Iím working with a home owner with a remodel and they want an old (pre water efficient WC). I have told him that I canít install one but thatís all he wants but will settle with a new 2 peace. He told me that anything I suggest he will goggle.

He doesnít like anything that I normally install so whatís out there that will not clog and has a supper rating?

I told him to look at the Toto CST744S Drake but he hasnít made up his mind yet.

Gary Swart
09-07-2007, 03:07 PM
I'm sure you know that most of the advice on new toilets on this forum will be for the Toto line. It seems to me what you have to do with this customer is to continue to educate him that the old style toilets are no longer legal to sell any where in the USA, that major improvements have been made in the better brands since the low flow toilets first came out, and that constant plunging is not required on the quality units. You also have to convince him that the junk sold in the Big Box stores does not meet the quality standards people want and that saving a few dollars on the purchase price will be more than offset by the grief that will follow with the cheap unit. There is a reason they are cheap. If he insists on a builder model from the Big Box, tell him that he will have to buy it himself, you will charge him for the installation, but that there will be no free adjustment, replacement, etc. when the toilet clogs or fails to perform as expected. As a professional, you can not warranty what you know to be an inferior product.

Cass
09-07-2007, 04:23 PM
Have him look at the Caroma Caravelle (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu7OK3eFGvYQBcaFXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTFhdnE5Y2p sBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA01BUDAwN185M ARsA1dTMQ--/SIG=1bu06vtej/EXP=1189293834/**http%3a//rdre1.yahoo.com/click%3fu=http%3a//www.become.com/shop%253Fref%253Dytf%2526q%253Dcaroma%252Bcaravell e%26y=0454FA02A05426C19C%26i=482%26c=33864%26q=02% 255ESSHPM%255BL7%257C~mpr~%253F%257C~mm~izss6%26e= utf-8%26r=2%26d=wow~MAP007-en-us%26n=KB64G7G4LVGKCAIG%26s=7%26t=%26m=46E1DD8B%26 o=01DF7A0AC1277ACC60E62242DB811FC931%26x=05432607B CB19E82F0A5B4C22E52E3066B) with a 4" trapway it is almost clog proof

got_nailed
09-07-2007, 08:46 PM
He knows that I will only install a legal WC. I just need another one or two for him to research before he makes up his mind.

I donít care what I install as long as the quality is better than what I normally install and it is what he wants. He wants the best and only the best and dose not care about the cost.

Terry
09-08-2007, 08:10 AM
http://www.terrylove.com/images/soiree_angle.jpg

Have him look at the TOTO Soiree toilet
Good flush and good looks.

http://www.terrylove.com/images/soiree_cyclone.jpg

It has the "double cyclone" rinse in addtition to the siphon jet flush that Toto is famous for.
Most of the models come with Sanagloss in the bowl.