Sudsing horizontal axis washing machine

Asko's WCAM1812 Combowasher/dryer's installation instructions from the manufacturer are essentially the same as a conventional residential dishwasher. It's drain hose is around 3/4" and it has a device that limits user error in the amount of low sudsing detergent used . It uses 20 gallons of water total over number of wash cyles and 3 rinses. It is not the 20 gpm dump that an oldstyle washer puts out. Where would I get some

I would like to use it in an older condo, in the place of a dishwasher, but, one plumber has put the fear of sudsing in the air and it has become an issue.

As far as I can tell, it presents less risk of sudsing than a bubble bath or kitchen sink, not one of the ASKO techs have heard of a problem. Has anyone heard of a problem with these washers, and is there any movment toward code acceptance, or a vanguard movement to install them in apartment buildings?

wm

There may never be a "rush" to install them in apartments/condos. What happens when they wear out, and the new machines are all conventional ones, (although most front load machines are low water usage), which are oversized for the piping that was installed?

i'll add what i can and let others take it from there.

your raise several concerns.
your questions are unclear, to me.
your wording is hard for me to follow.

The big question, in my opinion, is "can I install an ASKO in my home?" and then maybe, the next most curious thing is "what prevented that plumber from feeling comfortable with installing it?"

So here is a stab at some answers.

Your saying you want to put a washing machine where a dishwasher used to be could mean one of three things.
-- 1.) you wanted to use all the same pipes as they are
-- 2.) you wanted to replumb
-- 3.) you wanted to know what replumbing is necessary

I wasn't there when you talked to the plumber. The plumber may have thought you wanted to install a Washing machine without the normal standpipe. It is an everyday occurence, very common, for plumbers to meet homeowners who want NOT to install the right plumbing; it is so common that pllumbers often assume that any and all indirect use of language or vague questioning from the homeowner is geared towards that goal. I found it important to tell plumbers the exact opposite right at the beginning, and to repeat constantly that one message, as clearly as possible, in simple terms like "it must be done right."

AFAIK, a standpipe is necessary: it is designed to have enough volume in it to accept water and eventual sudsing too, up to a point deemed "code". AFAIK, all washing machines need a standpipe, no matter how small their output is. I don't know if Europeans do it differently; do they drain into a much smaller "volume-and-siphon-trap" thing?. I am eager to learn more, so post whatever you find out, in case you do dig into this subject. It's just information and not a recommendation to do anything.

You called this machine a horizontal axis machine. TMI, too much information, in my opinion. It's just a front loading machine. I have one too. It uses very little water too. I don't know whether I could install it onto my dishwasher branch tailpiece either. The reason I commented on your calling it a "horizontal axis" is that to some people it can sound like a good reason for you to ask for an exception to the rules, since it is so "special". No offense.

The fact that Asko has a big askousa.com web site seems to me that they have already got UL accreditation, or whatever equivalent accreditation is required. Your question was about "code" but i think you meant accreditation. - IAPMO etc. On Asko's USA Home Page all I see is "Awards and Accolades" but maybe the little accreditation logo will be visible on the PDF files like installation instructions. I wouldn't sweat it; I wouldn't worry.

BTW, even the comment from hj above assumes that the plumbing you might install would not accommodate another machine with higher output water. That appears to be the dilemma, to me -- the standpipe. But not a big dilemma either.

David